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	<title>Comments on: Media’s Golden Rule</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2011/media%e2%80%99s-golden-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-6195</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hayk,

I understand what you&#039;re saying, but if it were true advertisers would be spending less on marketing, when in fact they spend more every year.

One thing for sure, the internet and social media helps keep marketers honest.  While marketers still need to spend money to get information they want out in the public domain, information they don&#039;t want to get out moves faster than ever!

- Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayk,</p>
<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying, but if it were true advertisers would be spending less on marketing, when in fact they spend more every year.</p>
<p>One thing for sure, the internet and social media helps keep marketers honest.  While marketers still need to spend money to get information they want out in the public domain, information they don&#8217;t want to get out moves faster than ever!</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Hayk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the rule &quot;marketers will be more willing to pay for consumers than consumers are willing to pay for content&quot; undermining the very premises of marketing?

Initially (historically), advertising and marketing started when commoditization became so common (18th century), that there was a pressing need to tell the market about peculiarities of one&#039;s product/service. Market was full of what was perceived as same products and each producer had to tell what exactly was different or special about theirs.

So originally, marketers would pay for exposing information (what differences, advantages, return, value their product had over others) that the potential target pool of consumers might not have known or be aware of otherwise. Perhaps even the term marketing became standard at that time, as the notion of market for industrial age good became well-defined and delimited.

With age of Internet, there is little obstacle for anyone to find otu any information about anything. Companies as well have little to do to expose information about their offers.

Marketing was a means before. The rule implies - this is my perhaps erroneus understanding - that marketing is now not just means, it became an end in itself, by paying for customers instead of paying to reach customers. 

I also remember an excellent presentation (during one of digital marketing seminars here in Cairo) by BDM of consumer goods of Kodak entitled &quot;Good products do not sell themselves,&quot; where he argued that when there is a valuable or good product, there is little need for hardcore marketing.

Does this make sense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the rule &#8220;marketers will be more willing to pay for consumers than consumers are willing to pay for content&#8221; undermining the very premises of marketing?</p>
<p>Initially (historically), advertising and marketing started when commoditization became so common (18th century), that there was a pressing need to tell the market about peculiarities of one&#8217;s product/service. Market was full of what was perceived as same products and each producer had to tell what exactly was different or special about theirs.</p>
<p>So originally, marketers would pay for exposing information (what differences, advantages, return, value their product had over others) that the potential target pool of consumers might not have known or be aware of otherwise. Perhaps even the term marketing became standard at that time, as the notion of market for industrial age good became well-defined and delimited.</p>
<p>With age of Internet, there is little obstacle for anyone to find otu any information about anything. Companies as well have little to do to expose information about their offers.</p>
<p>Marketing was a means before. The rule implies &#8211; this is my perhaps erroneus understanding &#8211; that marketing is now not just means, it became an end in itself, by paying for customers instead of paying to reach customers. </p>
<p>I also remember an excellent presentation (during one of digital marketing seminars here in Cairo) by BDM of consumer goods of Kodak entitled &#8220;Good products do not sell themselves,&#8221; where he argued that when there is a valuable or good product, there is little need for hardcore marketing.</p>
<p>Does this make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, it&#039;s not just media&#039;s golden rule. It&#039;s also media&#039;s gold rush! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it&#8217;s not just media&#8217;s golden rule. It&#8217;s also media&#8217;s gold rush! <img src='http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I guess time will tell:-)

- Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess time will tell:-)</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sustainable? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sustainable? <img src='http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As digital media companies are profitable and digital ad expenditure is rising, I guess there is.

- Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As digital media companies are profitable and digital ad expenditure is rising, I guess there is.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone that writes wants to be read as much as possible. But is there a sustainable revenue model behind the work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone that writes wants to be read as much as possible. But is there a sustainable revenue model behind the work?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, but still don&#039;t get your point.  Sorry, maybe I&#039;m a bit dense, but could you explain?  All journalists that I know want to be read as much as possible.

- Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but still don&#8217;t get your point.  Sorry, maybe I&#8217;m a bit dense, but could you explain?  All journalists that I know want to be read as much as possible.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree that the time is ripe to leverage popularity and bring one&#039;s audience to a digital platform; e.g. Arianna. But the race is on. This simply can not scale. Attention is the scarce resource.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that the time is ripe to leverage popularity and bring one&#8217;s audience to a digital platform; e.g. Arianna. But the race is on. This simply can not scale. Attention is the scarce resource.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess that&#039;s true, but some audiences are more limited than others, which is why the NY Times columnists complained about &quot;Times Select&quot; and why Frank Rich (if reports are to be believed) is leaving ahead of the upcoming paywall.

- Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s true, but some audiences are more limited than others, which is why the NY Times columnists complained about &#8220;Times Select&#8221; and why Frank Rich (if reports are to be believed) is leaving ahead of the upcoming paywall.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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