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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2010/how-to-build-brand-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-3138</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

It would work exactly the same way.  Except those types of purchases are usually (but not always) more rational.  Those are the kinds of decisions that it&#039;s worth to take a great deal of time to study and people are less likely to take shortcuts.

Brands are still important, reputation for quality, service, etc.  However, a lot more effort goes into verification than it does for a consumer product.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>It would work exactly the same way.  Except those types of purchases are usually (but not always) more rational.  Those are the kinds of decisions that it&#8217;s worth to take a great deal of time to study and people are less likely to take shortcuts.</p>
<p>Brands are still important, reputation for quality, service, etc.  However, a lot more effort goes into verification than it does for a consumer product.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Schrynemeeckers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Schrynemeeckers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how does awareness and association work in highly technical niche markets like special tools for steel mills or environemntal testing services where you are not selling to the masses, but very technical logical audiences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does awareness and association work in highly technical niche markets like special tools for steel mills or environemntal testing services where you are not selling to the masses, but very technical logical audiences?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2010/how-to-build-brand-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

Good to see you back.  Thanks for your comments.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>Good to see you back.  Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2010/how-to-build-brand-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
I dont think its a case of whether we should have awareness, engagement or whatever else.There is a role for a number of different things in communication, the trick is in identifying what it is that needs to be stimulated in order to produce the consumer action that the client needs at the particular time.

If a brand is new and there is information that a consumer needs to understand and learn about it to establish whether it is relevant to them, then awareness may well be the priority at that point in time.For mature brands where consumers are familiar with them and know what they do and what they stand for, the job of communication is simply to remind at point of replenishment (as, certainly in FMCG most categories are dominated by reportoire buyers , it is important to ensure that messages are exposed when the buyer is most vulnerable to switching.

Of course, we are all keen on talking about engagement because effectiveness of mere exposure cannot be assumed any more and there is a need, as described above, which possibly wasnt so neccessary before, to offer a consumer value in return for his willingness to engage with a brand.This is all true.However that engagement and the value exchange doesnt end with purchase.Most companies dont want a consumer to buy just once.In order to ensure re-purchase, the brand needs to overdeliver to its purchaser so that it doesnt merely do what it said on the tin but give more (e.g. offer advice on how to get the most out of a brand/alternative ways to use it, etc.The most enthusiastic and engaged brand consumers can also eventually act as your brand advocates and almost act as unpaid salesmen for the brand.The job here is to feed, in a subtle way, the information to these people that you would like them to say and give them materials and stuff that makes it easier for them to say how good the brand is to a larger number of people than possible previously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I dont think its a case of whether we should have awareness, engagement or whatever else.There is a role for a number of different things in communication, the trick is in identifying what it is that needs to be stimulated in order to produce the consumer action that the client needs at the particular time.</p>
<p>If a brand is new and there is information that a consumer needs to understand and learn about it to establish whether it is relevant to them, then awareness may well be the priority at that point in time.For mature brands where consumers are familiar with them and know what they do and what they stand for, the job of communication is simply to remind at point of replenishment (as, certainly in FMCG most categories are dominated by reportoire buyers , it is important to ensure that messages are exposed when the buyer is most vulnerable to switching.</p>
<p>Of course, we are all keen on talking about engagement because effectiveness of mere exposure cannot be assumed any more and there is a need, as described above, which possibly wasnt so neccessary before, to offer a consumer value in return for his willingness to engage with a brand.This is all true.However that engagement and the value exchange doesnt end with purchase.Most companies dont want a consumer to buy just once.In order to ensure re-purchase, the brand needs to overdeliver to its purchaser so that it doesnt merely do what it said on the tin but give more (e.g. offer advice on how to get the most out of a brand/alternative ways to use it, etc.The most enthusiastic and engaged brand consumers can also eventually act as your brand advocates and almost act as unpaid salesmen for the brand.The job here is to feed, in a subtle way, the information to these people that you would like them to say and give them materials and stuff that makes it easier for them to say how good the brand is to a larger number of people than possible previously.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James

Nope.  Not either:-)

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James</p>
<p>Nope.  Not either:-)</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: james morran</title>
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		<dc:creator>james morran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward Barnays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward Barnays?</p>
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		<title>By: james morran</title>
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		<dc:creator>james morran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  Have you studied Edward Barneys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  Have you studied Edward Barneys?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick,

That&#039;s undeniably true, but you still have brand internals to look at.

The main point is that people get lazy and take objectives as given.  Setting objectives is a crucial strategic activity.  For a brand that has a problem with awareness, general brand awareness is a perfectly sensible goal.  For a famous brand, then it&#039;s a copout.

The pertinent question is:  Awareness of what and for what purpose?

I did some work with a fast food brand that did tracking and overall awareness wasn&#039;t as important as internals: i.e. taste, quality, value, cleanliness, etc.

When brand internals fell, sales would follow.  So awareness only makes sense if it addresses a specific problem and an open ended goal such as &quot;we want to raise brand awareness&quot; is completely useless (any campaign would fit that brief).

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s undeniably true, but you still have brand internals to look at.</p>
<p>The main point is that people get lazy and take objectives as given.  Setting objectives is a crucial strategic activity.  For a brand that has a problem with awareness, general brand awareness is a perfectly sensible goal.  For a famous brand, then it&#8217;s a copout.</p>
<p>The pertinent question is:  Awareness of what and for what purpose?</p>
<p>I did some work with a fast food brand that did tracking and overall awareness wasn&#8217;t as important as internals: i.e. taste, quality, value, cleanliness, etc.</p>
<p>When brand internals fell, sales would follow.  So awareness only makes sense if it addresses a specific problem and an open ended goal such as &#8220;we want to raise brand awareness&#8221; is completely useless (any campaign would fit that brief).</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually not that convinced about awareness as a unit of measurement.  If you&#039;ve achieved 90% brand awareness over time, moving that on in increments is an expensive proposition and to what end?  Surely at this stage it&#039;s time to look to other more salient measures of brand success.  Just my thoughts, as I&#039;ve seen many multi-market/global brands already maxed out in awareness terms still striving for more.

Cheers
Dick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually not that convinced about awareness as a unit of measurement.  If you&#8217;ve achieved 90% brand awareness over time, moving that on in increments is an expensive proposition and to what end?  Surely at this stage it&#8217;s time to look to other more salient measures of brand success.  Just my thoughts, as I&#8217;ve seen many multi-market/global brands already maxed out in awareness terms still striving for more.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Dick</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick,

Thanks.  I agree that brand awareness is overused.  However, just to be clear, I think it&#039;s fine as a unit of measure.  It&#039;s just worthless in a brief.  It&#039;s kind of like saying that a business wants to make money. - true but obviously useless.

The one exception I would have for putting awareness in a brief is if an econometric model has been built and specific awareness goals are given to help determine media weights.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick,</p>
<p>Thanks.  I agree that brand awareness is overused.  However, just to be clear, I think it&#8217;s fine as a unit of measure.  It&#8217;s just worthless in a brief.  It&#8217;s kind of like saying that a business wants to make money. &#8211; true but obviously useless.</p>
<p>The one exception I would have for putting awareness in a brief is if an econometric model has been built and specific awareness goals are given to help determine media weights.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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