Comments on: The Semantic Web http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed At the Crossroads of Media, Marketing and Technology... Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:56:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Greg http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2933 Greg Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:22:20 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-2933 Peyman, Thanks for your input. I agree that semantic technologies are going slower than the web, but as they are being integrated into the existing technology, they are more prevalent than you might think. - Greg Peyman,

Thanks for your input. I agree that semantic technologies are going slower than the web, but as they are being integrated into the existing technology, they are more prevalent than you might think.

- Greg

]]> By: Peyman Mohajerian http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-2932 Peyman Mohajerian Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:06:17 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-2932 I think this technology is vital and already in existence within different paradigms, many of the fundamentals of software integrations, e.g. WebServices, are already addressing this problem but in a more domain specific manner. Just like coming up with a universal prototype for wireless communication was a challenge for a while due to different interests, semantic web is also facing conflicting interests. But eventually the ground-up (or bottom-up) pressure to have a more formalized universal language will prevail. Obviously evolution of this technology has not been like the internet itself, but rather slow and incremental, so some of the analogies are misleading. I think this technology is vital and already in existence within different paradigms, many of the fundamentals of software integrations, e.g. WebServices, are already addressing this problem but in a more domain specific manner.
Just like coming up with a universal prototype for wireless communication was a challenge for a while due to different interests, semantic web is also facing conflicting interests.
But eventually the ground-up (or bottom-up) pressure to have a more formalized universal language will prevail.
Obviously evolution of this technology has not been like the internet itself, but rather slow and incremental, so some of the analogies are misleading.

]]> By: Greg http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1804 Greg Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:37:39 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1804 Anne, Thanks. I'm glad you found it helpful. - Greg Anne,

Thanks. I’m glad you found it helpful.

- Greg

]]> By: anne hannan http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1803 anne hannan Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:29:47 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1803 Thanks Greg, I've only recently come across the term Semantic web and I'm still trying to get my head around it. Yours is the clearest explanation so far although I have a suspicion that I'll still fail in trying to describe it to others. Your explanation of how the web came about is also very clear. I appreciate it. Thanks Greg, I’ve only recently come across the term Semantic web and I’m still trying to get my head around it. Yours is the clearest explanation so far although I have a suspicion that I’ll still fail in trying to describe it to others. Your explanation of how the web came about is also very clear. I appreciate it.

]]> By: Greg http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 Greg Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:55:50 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1486 Rafael, Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. - Greg Rafael,

Thanks. I’m glad you liked it.

- Greg

]]> By: Rafael Montilla http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1483 Rafael Montilla Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:12:24 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1483 Thanks, I enjoyed reading this post, excellent information. Thanks, I enjoyed reading this post, excellent information.

]]> By: Greg http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1305 Greg Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:12:07 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1305 Hari, Good point. Semantic web advocates are desperately trying to avoid the stigma of AI in order to succeed where it failed. I also agree that a Global ontology will be limited, but more local ontologies have greater promise. = Greg Hari,

Good point. Semantic web advocates are desperately trying to avoid the stigma of AI in order to succeed where it failed.

I also agree that a Global ontology will be limited, but more local ontologies have greater promise.

= Greg

]]> By: Hari Swaminathan http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1304 Hari Swaminathan Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:06:21 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1304 I think the question of the Semantic Web is akin to the excitement and potential held by Artificial intelligence (AI) and Expert Systems (ES), but never fully realized (at least with AI). The problem with AI is that too much is expected of it, with popular fantasy expectations of computers equalling or surpassing human capability. When benchmarked against such a broad expectation, it is bound to come up short. Expert systems on the other hand, defined a narrow scope for AI, and proclaimed that technology can solve certain problems requiring human-like intelligence provided the domain was tightly constrained. The best example of an ES are Chess games, especially the ones that beat Gary Kasparov. This is truly amazing from a machine if you really think about it. The semantic web may turn out to be similar. We're going to have to define domain boundaries within which the semantic web may in fact turn out to be extremely intelligent, but we should keep our expectations tempered. We may end up building various agents of the semantic web, all specializing in a particular function and doing it better than anyone or anything else on the planet. But to say that the web as a whole will become one big semantic intelligence engine may be asking for too much. I think the question of the Semantic Web is akin to the excitement and potential held by Artificial intelligence (AI) and Expert Systems (ES), but never fully realized (at least with AI). The problem with AI is that too much is expected of it, with popular fantasy expectations of computers equalling or surpassing human capability. When benchmarked against such a broad expectation, it is bound to come up short. Expert systems on the other hand, defined a narrow scope for AI, and proclaimed that technology can solve certain problems requiring human-like intelligence provided the domain was tightly constrained. The best example of an ES are Chess games, especially the ones that beat Gary Kasparov. This is truly amazing from a machine if you really think about it.

The semantic web may turn out to be similar. We’re going to have to define domain boundaries within which the semantic web may in fact turn out to be extremely intelligent, but we should keep our expectations tempered. We may end up building various agents of the semantic web, all specializing in a particular function and doing it better than anyone or anything else on the planet. But to say that the web as a whole will become one big semantic intelligence engine may be asking for too much.

]]> By: Greg http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1303 Greg Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:05:05 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1303 Interoperability does seem to be the order of the day. API's and open architecture are leading the way, but the idea is that eventually we won't need much of either. Thanks for your input. Much appreciated! - Greg Interoperability does seem to be the order of the day. API’s and open architecture are leading the way, but the idea is that eventually we won’t need much of either.

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated!

- Greg

]]> By: jtrigsby http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/the-semantic-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 jtrigsby Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:25:53 +0000 http://www.digitaltonto.com/?p=725#comment-1301 Hey Greg, great topic. Thanks for the post! I see some kind of hybrid in our future. "The Internet" is transforming from a destination where users go to find... whatever, to a data source where that data is aggregated and embedded in other stream-of-life appliances and applications (think augmented reality navigation systems). One of the best examples of this is Google search where, by their own numbers, less than 20% of searches conducted are initiated from their site. The capability is being embedded in toolbars and apps instead. Another great example is Twitter. The list gets longer every day. The destination sites will persist for a time but even the best destination sites (Amazon, Ebay, Wikipedia, Hulu, etc) are already understanding this transformation and making their content available through alternative channels. Maybe something like the Semantic web will be the answer. Thanks again for a great post! jtrigsby Hey Greg, great topic. Thanks for the post!

I see some kind of hybrid in our future. “The Internet” is transforming from a destination where users go to find… whatever, to a data source where that data is aggregated and embedded in other stream-of-life appliances and applications (think augmented reality navigation systems).

One of the best examples of this is Google search where, by their own numbers, less than 20% of searches conducted are initiated from their site. The capability is being embedded in toolbars and apps instead. Another great example is Twitter. The list gets longer every day.

The destination sites will persist for a time but even the best destination sites (Amazon, Ebay, Wikipedia, Hulu, etc) are already understanding this transformation and making their content available through alternative channels. Maybe something like the Semantic web will be the answer.

Thanks again for a great post!

jtrigsby

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