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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/controling-frequency-digital-media-secret-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dzieki, Grzes:-)</description>
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		<title>By: tequaz</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/controling-frequency-digital-media-secret-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>tequaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article Greg! I agree in 100%. Frequency control is a great argument when you try to pull some cash from TV to the internet.. 

However, simple frequency control in digital world is a little bit overrated by digital marketing specialists. To be honest - standard capping seems to work perfectly only in short-term campaigns... and it is not possible to sell this kind of campaign without a huge daily reach.

Don&#039;t believe digital media planers, when they try to guarantee you frequency 1 in 1 month period... the real frequency will be much, much higher. Let me give you an example of one of the biggest portals in eastern Europe... it generates more then 50M cookies / monthly. The quantity of real visitors is about 14-15M. In long-term campaigns frequency control works great only if you target registered users:)

However... possibility of frequency control is one of the greatest advantages of digital advertising world. This argument is one of my favorites and it works... oh yes, it works:) 

- tequaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article Greg! I agree in 100%. Frequency control is a great argument when you try to pull some cash from TV to the internet.. </p>
<p>However, simple frequency control in digital world is a little bit overrated by digital marketing specialists. To be honest &#8211; standard capping seems to work perfectly only in short-term campaigns&#8230; and it is not possible to sell this kind of campaign without a huge daily reach.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe digital media planers, when they try to guarantee you frequency 1 in 1 month period&#8230; the real frequency will be much, much higher. Let me give you an example of one of the biggest portals in eastern Europe&#8230; it generates more then 50M cookies / monthly. The quantity of real visitors is about 14-15M. In long-term campaigns frequency control works great only if you target registered users:)</p>
<p>However&#8230; possibility of frequency control is one of the greatest advantages of digital advertising world. This argument is one of my favorites and it works&#8230; oh yes, it works:) </p>
<p>- tequaz</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Apparently not.  Advertisers seem to be willing to pay less money for less effective advertising.  But what does that have to do with controlling frequency?  Are you talking about the medium as a whole of campaigns?

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Apparently not.  Advertisers seem to be willing to pay less money for less effective advertising.  But what does that have to do with controlling frequency?  Are you talking about the medium as a whole of campaigns?</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I then am scratching my head! Isn&#039;t what matters most is the over-saturation of advertising on either platform, and which really has the most efficiencies built in that balances impressions, actions and user acceptance, quality of experience (context) vs. backlash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I then am scratching my head! Isn&#8217;t what matters most is the over-saturation of advertising on either platform, and which really has the most efficiencies built in that balances impressions, actions and user acceptance, quality of experience (context) vs. backlash?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/controling-frequency-digital-media-secret-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

There&#039;s not much to it.  It&#039;s a basic option in Ad server software.  As I wrote in the article, you check a box and click a button.

However, there is a wrinkle.  While frequency levels in TV have been exhaustively researched and are fairly well understood, Digital media planners don&#039;t really have a clue about optimal frequency.  So while TV planners know what frequency they want and can&#039;t get it, Digital media planners can precisely set frequency but don&#039;t know what they level they should choose.

Irony.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not much to it.  It&#8217;s a basic option in Ad server software.  As I wrote in the article, you check a box and click a button.</p>
<p>However, there is a wrinkle.  While frequency levels in TV have been exhaustively researched and are fairly well understood, Digital media planners don&#8217;t really have a clue about optimal frequency.  So while TV planners know what frequency they want and can&#8217;t get it, Digital media planners can precisely set frequency but don&#8217;t know what they level they should choose.</p>
<p>Irony.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a newly interested party who is benefiting from these conversations and your blogging Greg, let me compliment your &quot;frequent&quot; efforts and say I am amazed at your focus!  Maybe I&#039;m just too inexperienced here, but please enlighten me on how DM can and does control frequency and based on what compelling events?  Robert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a newly interested party who is benefiting from these conversations and your blogging Greg, let me compliment your &#8220;frequent&#8221; efforts and say I am amazed at your focus!  Maybe I&#8217;m just too inexperienced here, but please enlighten me on how DM can and does control frequency and based on what compelling events?  Robert</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/controling-frequency-digital-media-secret-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brawilly,

I guess everybody has the right to his/her opinion.  However, as one who has consulted for global media agencies and has bought millions of dollars worth of TV myself, I can assure you that there is no lack of rigor or experience on my part.

The point of the article is that people who buy TV for a living spend a lot of time managing frequency distributions and in Digital this problem has been solved.  Heavy TV viewers are known to be less desirable than light TV viewers.  If you have any substantiation that either of these facts are untrue, please offer it.

Perhaps you can be more specific?  Maybe you can suggest a method of optimizing a TV campaign without controlling frequency or show me a frequency distribution of an actual TV campaign that doesn&#039;t have at least half of the impressions not exceeding the desired frequency range.  Perhaps you have research that shows that people who watch TV more than the average viewer have above average demographic characteristics rather than the opposite (as every piece of research I have ever seen indicates including this &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&amp;q=cache:ILeyTDqgKP4J:www.anzmac2008.org/_Proceedings/PDF/S01/Ceber%2520%2520Sharp%2520%26%2520Kennedy_S3%2520S1%2520P4.pdf+heavy+tv+user+demographics&amp;hl=en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one&lt;/a&gt;)?

It would help if you made an attempt to be more clear and coherent or at least try to substantiate you claims.

As you said, &quot;A little bit of research will help to ensure you can defend your views and opinions.&quot;

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brawilly,</p>
<p>I guess everybody has the right to his/her opinion.  However, as one who has consulted for global media agencies and has bought millions of dollars worth of TV myself, I can assure you that there is no lack of rigor or experience on my part.</p>
<p>The point of the article is that people who buy TV for a living spend a lot of time managing frequency distributions and in Digital this problem has been solved.  Heavy TV viewers are known to be less desirable than light TV viewers.  If you have any substantiation that either of these facts are untrue, please offer it.</p>
<p>Perhaps you can be more specific?  Maybe you can suggest a method of optimizing a TV campaign without controlling frequency or show me a frequency distribution of an actual TV campaign that doesn&#8217;t have at least half of the impressions not exceeding the desired frequency range.  Perhaps you have research that shows that people who watch TV more than the average viewer have above average demographic characteristics rather than the opposite (as every piece of research I have ever seen indicates including this <a href="http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&#038;q=cache:ILeyTDqgKP4J:www.anzmac2008.org/_Proceedings/PDF/S01/Ceber%2520%2520Sharp%2520%26%2520Kennedy_S3%2520S1%2520P4.pdf+heavy+tv+user+demographics&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">one</a>)?</p>
<p>It would help if you made an attempt to be more clear and coherent or at least try to substantiate you claims.</p>
<p>As you said, &#8220;A little bit of research will help to ensure you can defend your views and opinions.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: BraWilly</title>
		<link>http://www.digitaltonto.com/2009/controling-frequency-digital-media-secret-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>BraWilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg. Some of the statements you are making in this article are sweeping and indeed too generalised, and can be challenged vigorously by traditional media and marketing experts. There is more to TV advertising objectives and science than you assert, and you are being simplistic by stating that mainly people who do not have money watch TV. I am not sure if you wrote this article just to be provocative, which I shall assume is the case. For the record, I have many years of experience in traditional marketing experience, so I am not responding out of turn and I prefer balanced articles and this one is not in my opnion . While I agree that TV advertising has an element of wastage, it is still the among the best forms of brand-building platforms to this day. So please be careful not to mislead people who may not understand the value of this medium by stating lopsided (and possibly untested) views on the effectiveness of this communication medium. A little bit of research will help to ensure you can defend your views and opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg. Some of the statements you are making in this article are sweeping and indeed too generalised, and can be challenged vigorously by traditional media and marketing experts. There is more to TV advertising objectives and science than you assert, and you are being simplistic by stating that mainly people who do not have money watch TV. I am not sure if you wrote this article just to be provocative, which I shall assume is the case. For the record, I have many years of experience in traditional marketing experience, so I am not responding out of turn and I prefer balanced articles and this one is not in my opnion . While I agree that TV advertising has an element of wastage, it is still the among the best forms of brand-building platforms to this day. So please be careful not to mislead people who may not understand the value of this medium by stating lopsided (and possibly untested) views on the effectiveness of this communication medium. A little bit of research will help to ensure you can defend your views and opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: C2</title>
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		<dc:creator>C2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your premise is flawed.  Digital Media generally and mistakenly focuses soley on the sales funnel.  Whereas TV and the consumers who so engage in the medium can be influenced well above the funnel.  there is value in strategically implementing and managing both.  When you use the proper formulas you will soon see as most of my clients have that there is far more to gain by exploiting a before during and after funnel campaigns.

Charles Cantu  

&quot;Moreover, these heavy TV viewers tend to be the worst consumers.  Generally speaking, people are in one of two places:  at home or outside the home.  When they are at home, they are very likely to watch TV.  When they are outside, they are mostly either  earning money or spending money.  People who spend a lot of time at home usually do not earn or spend much.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your premise is flawed.  Digital Media generally and mistakenly focuses soley on the sales funnel.  Whereas TV and the consumers who so engage in the medium can be influenced well above the funnel.  there is value in strategically implementing and managing both.  When you use the proper formulas you will soon see as most of my clients have that there is far more to gain by exploiting a before during and after funnel campaigns.</p>
<p>Charles Cantu  </p>
<p>&#8220;Moreover, these heavy TV viewers tend to be the worst consumers.  Generally speaking, people are in one of two places:  at home or outside the home.  When they are at home, they are very likely to watch TV.  When they are outside, they are mostly either  earning money or spending money.  People who spend a lot of time at home usually do not earn or spend much.&#8221;</p>
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