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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

As always, thanks for the great input!!

- Greg</description>
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<p>As always, thanks for the great input!!</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Goldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, thanks for yet another great article. Two new developments I think add to the world of billboard advertising.
1) I&#039;m sure most people have heard by now of Coke&#039;s experiment (just beginning) with digital billboards. They have purchased 29 of the things to place in 20 cities in the US (at a cost of about $250,000 each - nice to be able to drop $7.25 million on an experiment, and that&#039;s just for the medium!). They said in the release that they wanted to own the experiment and that&#039;s why they bought the billboards rather than rent them.
2) The new digital posters in malls. Saw one of these the other day which looked like a giant iPhone - about 3 feet tall and 2 wide. It had a touch sensitive screen and people were walking by it and giving it a swipe to see it spill M&amp;Ms all over the screen.
To &quot;RussiaN Business Partner Center&quot;, there are 3 posts on our website which delve into ROI and the last one describes a way to build your own ROI calculator which you could use to create one to measure the ROI of your RFID tags. This link is to an index on our post as it contains 4 links:
1) How to Run a SMM Campaign. A formal process description which  calls for using ROI as one of the metrics to monitor in your campaign. And the other 3 posts cover:
2) How to measure the ROI of your website as a whole
3) The 10 best free ROI calculators on the Web and
4), How to build your own ROI calculator. This is the one you could use to find the ROI of your RFID tags

Here&#039;s the link: http://bit.ly/cEc0ln
.-= Eric Goldman´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inbound-marketing-automation.ca/blog/2010/02/25/planning-websites/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pre-planning your Website&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, thanks for yet another great article. Two new developments I think add to the world of billboard advertising.<br />
1) I&#8217;m sure most people have heard by now of Coke&#8217;s experiment (just beginning) with digital billboards. They have purchased 29 of the things to place in 20 cities in the US (at a cost of about $250,000 each &#8211; nice to be able to drop $7.25 million on an experiment, and that&#8217;s just for the medium!). They said in the release that they wanted to own the experiment and that&#8217;s why they bought the billboards rather than rent them.<br />
2) The new digital posters in malls. Saw one of these the other day which looked like a giant iPhone &#8211; about 3 feet tall and 2 wide. It had a touch sensitive screen and people were walking by it and giving it a swipe to see it spill M&amp;Ms all over the screen.<br />
To &#8220;RussiaN Business Partner Center&#8221;, there are 3 posts on our website which delve into ROI and the last one describes a way to build your own ROI calculator which you could use to create one to measure the ROI of your RFID tags. This link is to an index on our post as it contains 4 links:<br />
1) How to Run a SMM Campaign. A formal process description which  calls for using ROI as one of the metrics to monitor in your campaign. And the other 3 posts cover:<br />
2) How to measure the ROI of your website as a whole<br />
3) The 10 best free ROI calculators on the Web and<br />
4), How to build your own ROI calculator. This is the one you could use to find the ROI of your RFID tags</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://bit.ly/cEc0ln" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cEc0ln</a><br />
<span class="cluv"> Eric Goldman´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.inbound-marketing-automation.ca/blog/2010/02/25/planning-websites/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=rss" rel="nofollow">Pre-planning your Website</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joan,

Thanks for your comment.  I don&#039;t know about the US, it&#039;s been a while since I spent a significant amount of time there, but certainly tourists boards use Outdoor extensively.  

I think it has to do with the outdoor &quot;target group&quot; (which tends to be young and active),  the absence of the need for the ultra fast coverage build that TV requires and the attractiveness of cheap frequency over cheap coverage.

 - Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joan,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I don&#8217;t know about the US, it&#8217;s been a while since I spent a significant amount of time there, but certainly tourists boards use Outdoor extensively.  </p>
<p>I think it has to do with the outdoor &#8220;target group&#8221; (which tends to be young and active),  the absence of the need for the ultra fast coverage build that TV requires and the attractiveness of cheap frequency over cheap coverage.</p>
<p> &#8211; Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Rodríguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Rodríguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: 
Thanks for your thoughts. Certainly, outdoor enjoys a captive audience, as people that drive and walk on the street shouldn´t go with their eyes shut. Those little things do help! Also, in tourist destinations advetisers targeting visitors to the location have very few possibilities to mass market their products away from outdoor. That my not apply to US but certainly to Europe where tourist tend not to read, listen or watch the destination media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:<br />
Thanks for your thoughts. Certainly, outdoor enjoys a captive audience, as people that drive and walk on the street shouldn´t go with their eyes shut. Those little things do help! Also, in tourist destinations advetisers targeting visitors to the location have very few possibilities to mass market their products away from outdoor. That my not apply to US but certainly to Europe where tourist tend not to read, listen or watch the destination media.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardith,

Thanks for your input.  You have nice holidays as well.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardith,</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.  You have nice holidays as well.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Ardith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ardith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great article, Greg.  

I&#039;d like to add to your fine observations.  A particularly important aspect of outdoor advertising is this, content.  I&#039;ve studied such advertising for years and it still amazes me that over 90% of these ads are too busy, lacking focus, or worse don&#039;t give enough space to the company logo or contact information.  Unless one is stuck in traffic and not texting or on the phone, for instance, a billboard ad has 10 seconds or less to get a point across.  So the rule of thumb should be to keep it simple, eyecatching, focused on one key message, and for crying out loud make sure the company name, logo, and key contact information are clearly visible. 

Happy Holidays to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article, Greg.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add to your fine observations.  A particularly important aspect of outdoor advertising is this, content.  I&#8217;ve studied such advertising for years and it still amazes me that over 90% of these ads are too busy, lacking focus, or worse don&#8217;t give enough space to the company logo or contact information.  Unless one is stuck in traffic and not texting or on the phone, for instance, a billboard ad has 10 seconds or less to get a point across.  So the rule of thumb should be to keep it simple, eyecatching, focused on one key message, and for crying out loud make sure the company name, logo, and key contact information are clearly visible. </p>
<p>Happy Holidays to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on cave paintings.  I&#039;m sure that your wife will be interested to know that it wasn&#039;t your daughter who made those markings all over the house!

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts on cave paintings.  I&#8217;m sure that your wife will be interested to know that it wasn&#8217;t your daughter who made those markings all over the house!</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clyde,

Thanks for the comment.  I&#039;ll answer the questions as best as I can.

1. In that case, Outdoor would be worth less.  However, I don&#039;t think we should assume that Videoconferencing will lessen traffic.  Communications have come a long way: Phone, e-mail, etc.  Moreover, the price keeps going down.

Yet, traffic around the world has been steadily increasing for decades.

2. That&#039;s part of the billboard scoring.  If it would be come an issue, it would be easily solved by routine updating.

3. Maybe so...  You already have the same thing at sporting events.  People can see some brands displayed on the field live, other brands on TV.

- Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clyde,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I&#8217;ll answer the questions as best as I can.</p>
<p>1. In that case, Outdoor would be worth less.  However, I don&#8217;t think we should assume that Videoconferencing will lessen traffic.  Communications have come a long way: Phone, e-mail, etc.  Moreover, the price keeps going down.</p>
<p>Yet, traffic around the world has been steadily increasing for decades.</p>
<p>2. That&#8217;s part of the billboard scoring.  If it would be come an issue, it would be easily solved by routine updating.</p>
<p>3. Maybe so&#8230;  You already have the same thing at sporting events.  People can see some brands displayed on the field live, other brands on TV.</p>
<p>- Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Nicholson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Out of home is a very interesting case when we look at global communication trends.Its the oldest communciation medium (i think cave-paintings were possibly the first advertising form) and also it is not suffering from the ascent of digital adpend in terms of its share of communication spending like other traditional forms-particularly newspapers.In fact it is grwing slightly.

One reason is that it is actually becoming a digital medium itself.The advance of digital billboards, like other technological developments in communication such as mobile, has been extermely rapid as costs become more resonable.One could forsee this becoming the norm in a reasonable period of time.Ckearly digital brings it into the platform connectivity axis of other forms (internet, Tv,news etc) allowing it to converge.Also digital brings extra creativity to the mediume which encourage greater client use of the medium.

Even with the traditional forms there have been forces at work over a longer timeframe which have helped the medium undgo a rebirth.Its quite strange saying this, but actually Out of Home has become one of the most &quot;international&quot; of media in terms of cross-border ownership (unlike TV where the largest suppliers are predominantly local).

AS local suppliers are gradually acquired by the likes of Clear Channel JC Decuax and Viacom, they bring with it site quality standards that improve the communicating power of the medium as well as incresing teh potential for more stand-out collaboration of ambient executions between agencies and suppliers,hence again improving the share that the medium takes of the budget in many markets

Lastly...in a world where contact points with brands are increasing but communicating individually with smaller groups, this is the last medium which will continue to remain mass. In fact you cant stop it being a mass-communication medium even if you wanted to. So it will have this USP into the future to sustain it.

This isnt a sales promo on behalf of the Outdoor industry, but i certainly believe that companies in this sector will survive testing economic times better than some of their tradional media cousins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Out of home is a very interesting case when we look at global communication trends.Its the oldest communciation medium (i think cave-paintings were possibly the first advertising form) and also it is not suffering from the ascent of digital adpend in terms of its share of communication spending like other traditional forms-particularly newspapers.In fact it is grwing slightly.</p>
<p>One reason is that it is actually becoming a digital medium itself.The advance of digital billboards, like other technological developments in communication such as mobile, has been extermely rapid as costs become more resonable.One could forsee this becoming the norm in a reasonable period of time.Ckearly digital brings it into the platform connectivity axis of other forms (internet, Tv,news etc) allowing it to converge.Also digital brings extra creativity to the mediume which encourage greater client use of the medium.</p>
<p>Even with the traditional forms there have been forces at work over a longer timeframe which have helped the medium undgo a rebirth.Its quite strange saying this, but actually Out of Home has become one of the most &#8220;international&#8221; of media in terms of cross-border ownership (unlike TV where the largest suppliers are predominantly local).</p>
<p>AS local suppliers are gradually acquired by the likes of Clear Channel JC Decuax and Viacom, they bring with it site quality standards that improve the communicating power of the medium as well as incresing teh potential for more stand-out collaboration of ambient executions between agencies and suppliers,hence again improving the share that the medium takes of the budget in many markets</p>
<p>Lastly&#8230;in a world where contact points with brands are increasing but communicating individually with smaller groups, this is the last medium which will continue to remain mass. In fact you cant stop it being a mass-communication medium even if you wanted to. So it will have this USP into the future to sustain it.</p>
<p>This isnt a sales promo on behalf of the Outdoor industry, but i certainly believe that companies in this sector will survive testing economic times better than some of their tradional media cousins.</p>
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		<title>By: clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent article and gives someone like me who is not directly related to the media buying/selling arena a great overview on the subject and in relation to other media realestate such as digital/online.

some far fetched thoughts did spring to mind though :-)

1) What happens when now increasing number of people don&#039;t travel much? i.e people are giving up driving to a meeting for VC (video conferencing). Most of the stuff from groceries etc is ordered online... swinflu is keeping people at home and online learning is taking over.

2) As a result of some of the effect of 1) above occuring... traffic on highways is less so speeds of vehicle movement is faster. This will not have an effect on billboards placed at the &quot;correct angle&quot; on a highway, but others will not be seen when driving at higher speeds . (I don&#039;t know where all these funny thoughts come from - trust me! :-) ..i must have missed a few billboards while driving I suppose.

3) My all time favourite way out thought - Rogue Augmented Reality billboards. 
Somewhat taking from an earlier post of yours on AR. imagine now that Iphones and other mobiles have all these AR browsers in them.. what if some rogue company starts &quot;replacing&quot; paper billboards with a &quot;digital one&quot; over the existing real world billboard.

I can see Pepsi getting prime time Billboard space in Times Square, while poor Coke pays for it. With an AR browser such as LAYAR  when someone aims at the coke billboard a rogue - perfectly aligned Pepsi billboard appears ...and animated at that! :-)

Ok enough of rambling. great article!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent article and gives someone like me who is not directly related to the media buying/selling arena a great overview on the subject and in relation to other media realestate such as digital/online.</p>
<p>some far fetched thoughts did spring to mind though <img src='http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>1) What happens when now increasing number of people don&#8217;t travel much? i.e people are giving up driving to a meeting for VC (video conferencing). Most of the stuff from groceries etc is ordered online&#8230; swinflu is keeping people at home and online learning is taking over.</p>
<p>2) As a result of some of the effect of 1) above occuring&#8230; traffic on highways is less so speeds of vehicle movement is faster. This will not have an effect on billboards placed at the &#8220;correct angle&#8221; on a highway, but others will not be seen when driving at higher speeds . (I don&#8217;t know where all these funny thoughts come from &#8211; trust me! <img src='http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ..i must have missed a few billboards while driving I suppose.</p>
<p>3) My all time favourite way out thought &#8211; Rogue Augmented Reality billboards.<br />
Somewhat taking from an earlier post of yours on AR. imagine now that Iphones and other mobiles have all these AR browsers in them.. what if some rogue company starts &#8220;replacing&#8221; paper billboards with a &#8220;digital one&#8221; over the existing real world billboard.</p>
<p>I can see Pepsi getting prime time Billboard space in Times Square, while poor Coke pays for it. With an AR browser such as LAYAR  when someone aims at the coke billboard a rogue &#8211; perfectly aligned Pepsi billboard appears &#8230;and animated at that! <img src='http://www.digitaltonto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ok enough of rambling. great article!!</p>
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